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Your papers, please!

I'm sure my in-laws will feel much safer when this law goes into effect.

Date: 2006-01-06 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feren.livejournal.com
I thought living in Illinois was bad, but this takes the cake. Wow.

Date: 2006-01-06 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamiten.livejournal.com
... and I love your icon.

Date: 2006-01-06 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamiten.livejournal.com
*foams at mouth*

^-- I'm not sure I could come up with an intelligent response to this at the moment. I wish more people would oppose our governments.

Date: 2006-01-06 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
*forehead slap*

-TG

Date: 2006-01-06 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plonq.livejournal.com
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Date: 2006-01-06 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncandahusky.livejournal.com
Yeah, I give that law about three or four milliseconds after Taft signs it before it gets challenged in court.

Date: 2006-01-06 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plonq.livejournal.com
What's a bit disturbing about the article is that it sounds like it's more a case of "when" rather than "if" he signs the law.

I don't expect that it will stand up to a serious court challenge, but a society shouldn't have to run that way. Court challenges cost a lot in time, money and human investment. Even when it is overturned, a bad law still takes a toll. One has to wonder how many people will be affected by this horrid law before it gets overturned? Which raises another issue...

Somebody with a more solid legal grasp can correct me on this, but if somebody is convicted under a law that is later overturned or rescinded, that conviction still stands does it not? Is that different in a case where the law is ruled unconstitutional?

Date: 2006-01-06 08:59 pm (UTC)
ext_15118: Me, on a car, in the middle of nowhere Eastern Colorado (Default)
From: [identity profile] typographer.livejournal.com
Except the Supreme Court has upheld Drug Loitering laws, which are virtually the same thing. If you're in a public space a cop can demand to see your ID if he thinks you look out of place. You question him, you're in violation of the law.

I helped fundraise for two initiatives to try to rescind this after helping fundraise for the court challenge. It sucks.

Date: 2006-01-06 09:00 pm (UTC)
ext_15118: Me, on a car, in the middle of nowhere Eastern Colorado (Default)
From: [identity profile] typographer.livejournal.com
I meant to rescind Seattle's Drug Loitering law, which has become a pattern for many more like it in cities all over the country.

Date: 2006-01-06 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducktapeddonkey.livejournal.com
Cool.

I should move there.


NOT!!

Date: 2006-01-06 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthony-lion.livejournal.com
I'm just glad that I live in a democracy...

Date: 2006-01-06 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi, this is your father-in-law. You're right about it making me feel much safer but to link two of your posts, when I clicked on this link
The News-Herald - News - 03/01/2005 - Ohio doesn't need its own Patriot Act
at work, "ACCESS DENIED" came up. I was told it was a porn site. Great!

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